Archive for November, 2009

The main questions

Tuesday, November 17th, 2009

Designing a space balloon is not such a simple thing. Ideally I would like a simple, cheap and reusable system.
Using off the shelf components and subsystems is by far the easiest and fastest way to build it. But like everything, you don’t necessarily have it for a good price, with all the cool features and options.

I spent some time studying what would the payload need this weekend and I ended up with more questions than answers.

Where The Hell is My Balloon?!

The top priority is to retrieve the payload after its launch. To do so, I need to :

  1. Log the balloon location (latitude, longitude, altitude)
  2. Send this information to the recovery team on the ground on a regular basis

Problem#1: Location

The best way to track the balloon is to use a GPS. But most GPS receivers seem to have hard limits at  60,000 feet ASL (18km). DoD regulations prohibit standard consumer GPS receivers from functioning above 60,000 feet and 999mph. It would be considered as a ballistic missile.

I would like to reach 100.000 ft ASL so I need to find a GPS that work above that threshold. Multiple lists of GPS working above 60K ASL are available on Internet and specialized forums. However almost all of them are single devices that need to be integrated with electronic boards. Yes you can tell that I really don’t know anything about all this…

But what does that mean Not Working Above 60K ft?

Does that mean that the GPS literally stops functioning? Or does that mean that it just doesn’t calculate the altitude? A potential workaround would be to use a barometric altimeter but it tends to not be accurate at high altitude. How inaccurate are we talking about? 1000 ft or 10.0000 ft ? Am I wrong or is the formula just more complex at high altitude?

So basically,

  • I need to find a GPS working above 60.000 ft ASL
  • I need to find a way to determine the max altitude reached

Problem#2: Communication

GSM can work up to 10 miles high  for old phones (about 50.000 ft), newer phones work about up to about 6 miles (31.000 ft). So tracking a balloon using GSM communications implies losing contact during the ascent and hopefully getting it back during the descent. The main consequence is that the recovery team may end up very far from the balloon or worse, lose contact and never find the payload.

I tried to deny it and find another solution but apparently the only way to track the balloon during the whole flight is using ham radio (amateur radio). A radio transceiver needs be connected with the GPS to send the location on a regular basis to a receiver on the ground. Unfortunately I haven’t found any out of the box solution yet and I don’t know enough about ham radio and electronics to build it myself.

So it all comes down to compromises:

  • Either spending some time building my own tracking system
    Pros: It will do what I want and it’s not very expensive
    Cons: It will take forever to build it and test it
  • Either using a GSM phone but risking losing the payload
    Pros: It’s super easy to put in place and is the cheapest solution
    Cons: The payload may land 250 miles away from us or we may never find it
  • Or finding the appropriate turnkey solution
    Pros: It will do exactly what I am looking for
    Cons: Usually very expensive

So I have a couple of options that I need to study in greater details. I just wanted to give you a brief overview of my main questions.

Don’t tell me what I can’t do

Thursday, November 12th, 2009

Welcome to Beyond 62!

I am officially starting this project and I am really excited to write this first blog post. I will refer to this project as MSP and this is MSP-1.

During the next couple of weeks, I will share with you my questions and problems, the solutions I found and my progress to send a balloon above 100.000ft. After doing some preliminary researches, I found out that most people have 2 ways to do it.

  1. Either use as many out of the box devices as possible
  2. Either build everything themselves

Despite many hours spent studying electronics in college, I can say that I pretty much know nothing about it.
Building a custom system such as a GPS connected to a circuit board with a temperature and pressure sensor seems out my league for now.

I want to go simple. I want big wins with the least efforts. I may have to approximate the altitude reached for example but if that saves me hours and hundred of dollars, well for my first trial, so be it. I didn’t set a deadline or any time frame yet but I expect MSP-1 to be launched by the end of January.

If you have some questions about all this, I suggest that you check here. Otherwise feel free to leave a comment or to contact me.